How 'bout them apples!

Blade Runner will go down in history as a failed attempt and a completely missed opportunity for director Ridley Scott.

...or how music detroyed a film. Read all about it here:

http://scoresounds.tripod.com/bladerunner.html

Whaaaat?
This must be some kind of popcorn reviewer. He probably doesn't even realize that the memory, fame and place in film history BR has, is well earned also by Vangelis' music! If BR had a classical soundtrack, it would be a big drawback. Vangelis' soundrtack is generally very valued by most of film music critics, and I've read like dozens of reviews... Of course we all have our own opinion but if he says such outright lies like "Blade Runner will go down in history as a failed attempt and a completely missed opportunity for director Ridley Scott." ...?

He was probably living as a hermit on some abandoned distant island for last 20 years.

Nuff said, not worth of getting annoyed. It's an insignificant personal site anyway. I'd gladly invite him to BZ forums though, so we all could explain him some things.

Yeah...he wants a "traditional" score to make BR a more "traditional" hollywood movie i am guessing...if the emotions he supposed to be feeling aren't spelled out to him like a john williams score he must not be relate to the movie. I happen to think that the score and its "uniqueness" are one of the ingrediants that make BR so mystical to me...he even stated that the score was "alien" and "cold"...other descriptions that could be substituted are "out of this world" and "chilling" showing that it is all point of view. and if you have no artistic or openminded sensabilities Vangelis's BR score would be hard to take. "TOO BAD FOR YOU"....I am having a hard time editing this because it erases stuff as I retype it..so hopefully you understand what i am saying here without me having to retype the whole thing. This guy should not be reviewing shit in my opinion...I can see it now "too many nuts"

This guys definitely got his head up his ass but thats free speech, right?
A suitable case for re-education.

who cares what this douchebag thinks. His high brow critic friends probably forgot to tell him that it is no longer fashionable to trash genre defining cult classics.

Well, I don't know why, but after reading that article I couldn't think of one decent thing to say. A week has passed now and finally, I have it!

I think (well, actually, I know) that Vangelis' score is THE major reason why Blade Runner has turned out so special. It didn't destroy the picture, it MADE it! In fact, an other, more conventional orchestral score would've had the potential to ruin it. Vangelis simply nailed the Blade Runner atmosphere. He is the voice of the city. He understands the empiness of Deckard's existance and he wrote 'Blade Runner Blues' to prove it. His score has a compassionate quality that I haven't encountered before. And it works! It works for the characters as well as for the Blade Runner world: the buildings, the streets, the spinners, the people passing in the background. We can almost feel it, touch it. The kissing scene between Deckard and Rachel is sad, beautiful and yearning because the 'Love Theme' wants it to be sad, beautiful and yearning. The combination between Scott's imagery and Vangelis' music is pure chemistry and creates a fusion so perfect and unique that it only happens once a decade, if we're lucky. I consider myself quite fortunate that I was able to see all these things. The times that I saw Blade Runner in theatre, on a big screen and with pristine projection, are the moments I cherish as some of the best moments in my life.

How 'bout them apples!

Whats wrong with that guy.
he is probably a cheesy musician, or he is refused for the music school
And why is he refering to FF (it has the best cgi till date) but the rest is horrible. And even with Elliot's music its not better.
Look at it. FF an ultra scifi/ fantasy movie with standart film score, how odd and non artistic, how cheap and how simple, how darn commercial.

BR is not an commercial bullshit movie as FF (for ex) he trully can't understand the incredible artism in the music.

ps, i'm not saying that commercial movies are bad. i like them on my self and would like to make one some day, but refering to one single film as FF and saying such crap about one of the most influencal scores been made let me just freak out

Well it confuses me on what movie he viewed. If its the Blade Runner film I viewed, boy did he miss alot of the subtle to painfully obvious references to the theme "What is human"? Vangelis score evokes the sense of contrasting crowded streets but people are isolated. To quote:

The film cried, screamed for something that could provide a bond between movie and viewer, but Vangelis, in his haphazard, electronic way, could never have been able to cough up the goods.

What bond was he meant to have as filmgoer in the 2001 to film set in dystopic future 2019? He wanted to relate to this world-or did he miss the fact he could relate to Dekards loss of idenity? Rachel fighting the reality of what she is? Human issues, I mean these are extraordinary people/replicants in extraordinary times 2019 Los Angeles and he is annoyed that he cannot bond at every level from his cinema seat in 2001?

He rips into Vangelis work because it alienates him from an extraordinary FICTIONAL setting? My, My this guy must love the spate of mindless "Reality" drivel that floods out TVs every night as he can relate to people betraying/competing with each other over money, women or holidays. Hold on its the PEOPLE in extraordinary sitautions we relate to so my gosh-if he just watched the movie-involved himself with the characters instead of crying for a safe traditional security blanket movie score he might then realise what vangelis and Scott were up to.

Then he could listen to the score and review it instead of seeking safety from that hideous thing in the void that haunts and eludes him-IMAGINATION.

The Bladerunner sound track is probably the greatest sound track ever composed....the fact that this plank doesnt get it doesnt bother me.....i'm just amazed that he thinks his opinion is worth posting on his own crumby
website.....what a LOSER !!

'Opinions are like assholes........everybodys got one'

Too bad isaccs is worth less than a dried turd.

heh, look, he's on a free server. i smell a DOS attack, lol. get that blasphemy off there!

its funny, i was just remembering this thread a fe whours ago. i also agree the BR soundtrack is THE best movie soundtrack ever compsed. vangelis is soooooooooo underrated.

vangelis is soooooooooo underrated.

Nay, I don't think so... he was even generally popular in the 90's with hit chartbreakers "Conquest of Paradise" and that thing from Voices... Voices?
He was played on radios quite often, even though just for ambiance.

But I think that his best years of synth pioneering are over, definitely.

vangelis is soooooooooo underrated.

Nay, I don't think so... he was even generally popular in the 90's with hit chartbreakers "Conquest of Paradise" and that thing from Voices... Voices?
He was played on radios quite often, even though just for ambiance.

But I think that his best years of synth pioneering are over, definitely.

You, sir, are absolutely right! He's not even a real synth's man anymore. I even dare to say that Blade Runner was the last good thing he did. His later albums often go towards schmaltz and cheap keyboard sounds. The peak years when he released Albedo 0.39, China, Beaubourg, Spiral are long over. In fact, they ended with Blade runner.

well, he can be more popular then he is. he wouldve done excelent music for the Minority report, and A.I., and probably all the terminator movies. he isnt as popular as some of the other music people like james horner and john williams.

i think the only time i heard vangelis on the radio was when i was 6 and i heard "chariots of fire". i didnt know it was vangelis at the time.

You, sir, are absolutely right! He's not even a real synth's man anymore. I even dare to say that Blade Runner was the last good thing he did. His later albums often go towards schmaltz and cheap keyboard sounds. The peak years when he released Albedo 0.39, China, Beaubourg, Spiral are long over. In fact, they ended with Blade runner.

Hm, I'd say that he was still good and innovative I the 80s. Especially in the first half of 80s he did some good albums and soundtracks, lets see...

1980: See you later
1981: Chariots of fire
1983: Antarctica
1984: Soil festivities
1984: Bounty
1985: Invisible connections
1985: Mask
1988: Direct
1990: The City

Ive read an article about him where the reviewer dared to call DIRECT "one of the best synth albums ever, even beating JM Jarre in his own area"
Never had a chance to hear it though, pity.

As I said, he made few breaks for popular appeal in the 90s, but didnt made anything innovative. 1492 Conquest of paradise was a very good sountrack, but too much exploited by media for my taste. In the 90s we experienced a boom of electronic and ambient music and his influence started to fade.

Invisible Connections certainly was experimental (as opposed to the very more generic Vangelis) but is hardly any good. Have you heard it? I sold my newly bought LP as soon as I could. The music was truly invisible!