BR Technical manual
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yeah, i know harrier jets dont leterally "destroy" everything, but the wind is what i was talking about. people walking down the street, and some punk in a spinner swoops down, knocking people off their feet with the verticle lift-off wind, lol. thats what i was thinking of, lol.
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"Don't be a dick!" -Wil Wheaton
OK, one more. This is what a VK result report might look like. All the eye components are accurate (I believe)/
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I'll tell you why I'm against it:
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<BR>1) it makes us look like a bunch of dickless, poorly socialized geeks - like Trekkies, in other words. I have always preferred to think of us as art lovers.
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<BR>2) Most of it would be BS that came straight out of somebody's butt, as opposed to the great ideas that came fully formed - and should be left strictly alone, like you would a Picasso - from the great creative minds of Syd Mead etc.
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<BR>that's all,
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Sorry, that was a bit harsh. Let me elaborate: Blade Runner is a perfectly formed work of art; that's why it doesn't need sequels, comics, games, decoder rings, or any other leechy shite. When you are in awe of a work of art, for example the Mona Lisa, do you go out and start marketing Mona Lisa ball caps?
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<BR>I am appalled to realize that anyone here is so full of themselves that they think they could write a manual to the IMAGINARY equipment in BR. Plus the other thing: it smacks of Klingon Dictionaries and the like. Yech.
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<BR>peace,
<BR>emspace.
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<BR>P.S. BTW, I have "BR fan art" on this site. It is a humble tribute to the staggering emotions this movie caused in me, nothing more. If anyone suggested I profit from it, I'd laugh and walk away.
I think what separates Blade Runner from other Sci-fi such as Star Trek is that it isn't <!-- BBCode Start --><I>so</I><!-- BBCode End --> far-fetched.
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<BR>As far as I'm concerned most, if not all, of the technology shown in Blade Runner will be around by the year 2019 - I think it's perfectly possible to create a 'tech' manual for Blade Runner and base it on technologies rooted in today.
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<BR>If somebody want's to spend their own time creating such a thing, then why not? What's wrong with being creative?
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<BR>If the end 'product' doesn't quite reach the high production values of the movie, then so what? The movie will still exist in all it's forms and will be not be 'degraded' in any way.
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<BR>Personally, I don't like the 'keep off Blade Runner' type way of thinking. Warner could have done far more with this 'universe' than they have.
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<BR>Blade Runner isn't 'complete' - there are huge gaps in the movies portrayal of the 'distopian future'. There's huge scope for dedicated fans to fill these gaps - I've no doubt, most will fail to convince the rest of us to accept their work as being part of the Blade Runner 'world' but I applaud those who try.
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We each live in our own realities - who's maintaining yours?
The only thing that you can be 100% sure of, is that you can't be 100% sure of anything.
excatly my point, both BRs (who posted above)
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<BR>i am the type of person that doesnt beleive a 2nd blade runner should be made, i think the movie is just fine as-is. hence: i would never think of doing anything that will ruin that or displace/destroy how people thing of blade runner, as the star trek movies have done to the ORIGINAL, star trek tv show. if anyone doesnt want me to do it, fine, i wont...i mainly wanted this to be a fan-made thing by LOTS of fans so everyone has contributed. And by contributed, i mean explain stuff thats there in the movies, and not have to make stuff up like in the Aliens tech manual or star trek one.
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<BR>i too, love BR for that fact that it is so sci-fi, yet soo realistic at the same time. i like the way the technology is made to be advanced for its time, and it(blade runner) is almost like a prediction of the future.
"Don't be a dick!" -Wil Wheaton
Dear all:
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<BR>I was way out of line - of course it's good to exercise your creative abilities. I do have a "hands off" approach to BR. This is because I have always thought of it as complete and perfect, regardless of the fact there are unanswered questions. In fact I think that's one of the great things about it, compared to the vast majority of modern sci-fi, which tends to just beat you over the head with a lot of (admittedly good-looking) explosions.
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<BR>BR was sci-fi with actual human feelings involved - beautiful, when you consider the subject was the definition of "human". The people who gave it its look/feel: Douglas Trumbull, David Dryer, Syd Mead, Matthew Yuricich - these were people at the aboslute top of their field. They made some damn good-looking, largely technically unlikely or at least incomprehensible gadgets. I do and always will consider it pointless as well as egomaniacal to second-guess the structure and function of something that not only never existed in reality, but was put in place only to enhance a story line. I'll say that again to give it its proper emphasis: STORY LINE, something that seems to get overlooked a lot in this forum.
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<BR>Anyway I owe THX1138 an apology for suggesting he shouldn't exercise his creative juices. As someone said, you can make anything you want, knock yourself out. I'm sure your intentions are good.
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<BR>humbly,
<BR>emspace.
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<BR>P.S. I expected (and wasn't disappointed) to see someone call me "hypocrite" for having fan art here. I don't imagine there's any point explaining the difference, but let me put it this way: I recognize and am willing to admit that the men I mentioned previously are FAR better artists than I am. I do not consider my pictures to have ANYTHING to do with BR except as a tribute, and a poor one at that. Does that give a hint?
P.P.S. maybe someone can explain to me how the camera used to take Leon's photos could produce information stored in the image of objects not in its line of view, that the Esper could then interpret?
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<BR>It's impossible, but it's also a movie, and we're allowed to get swept away and suspend disbelief. That's the great thing about movies. Enough said.
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Deckard BR26354, I totally respect you as you know, and you have supported me greatly, updating my hyperlinks, etc. But I take great exception to the idea that BR has "huge gaps" and unknowns that fans "can fill in". Can you imagine "fans" doing that to a painting in a museum, or suggesting that the Moonlight Sonata could use a little less mystery, maybe add a sprightly jig somewhere to dispel the gloom? Call me old-fashioned, but I believe fans are supposed to appreciate, not add to, the art they love. If it seems like I'm putting BR on a pedestal, damn right - why else would I even be here?
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<BR>okay, I'll leave off now,
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ok now that everyone has voiced there opinion what needs to be done to continue the project pics explinations of certain aspects of the fiml such as personal histories of blade runners certain Tyrell officials what i dont mind writing so gimme somthin
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I think we're all getting carried away here - Blade Runner is not perfect. If it were then there'd be no discussion, just absolute acceptance.
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<BR>Okay, the 'esper' sequence - impossible? In my book there's no such thing as 'impossible' - <!-- BBCode Start --><B>everything</B><!-- BBCode End --> is possible, given time. You might think that to be a naive statement, but never-the-less I whole-heartedly believe it to be true. One thing I do know for sure is that if you never dare to imagine how such a device would work then you'll certainly never create such a technology.
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<BR>To say that the Esper photograph sequence couldn't work is to make the assumption that the photo is a 'bog standard' polaroid taken with a camera based on today's technology.
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<BR>What's wrong with imagining a camera that can selectively 'see' through walls - we already have radar, sonar, x-rays, CAT scans and other technologies that can 'see' through solid matter. And why not a camera that can sample the surrounding geometry of a location, record the information into a 3D model that can later be analysed by a software 'viewer'.
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<BR>The reason why I prefer Sci-Fi over all other genres is that is presents us with these seemingly 'impossible' technologies but gives us enough clues to suggest that they may not be that far away after all.
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<BR>It's very easy to say something is impossible simply because we lack the knowledge to accomplish it - 'impossible' is a very localised problem.
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<BR>I don't think there's any value in directly comparing the movie Blade Runner with an oil painting or a dance, but if we are going to play that game then I would suggest that certainly in the case of paintings (abstract especially) there's a lot of discussion about the 'meaning' of the work and the 'intention' of the artist. In these cases the viewer <!-- BBCode Start --><B>is</B><!-- BBCode End --> left to 'fill in the gaps' and interpret the work as they see fit.
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<BR>And as for fans who should 'worship' and never aspire to 'improve' then I couldn't disagree more. Aren't all artists 'fans' of other artists? Don't they aspire to be as good as or better than their idols?
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<BR>Okay, I know this looks like a 'rant' but it isn't. Nor is it a direct attack on emspace who I find myself agreeing with on almost all other issues - I think it touched a nerve about a subject that I can get pretty passionate about. <IMG SRC="/forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">
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Richard Gunn
We each live in our own realities - who's maintaining yours?
The only thing that you can be 100% sure of, is that you can't be 100% sure of anything.
We each live in our own realities - who's maintaining yours?
The only thing that you can be 100% sure of, is that you can't be 100% sure of anything.
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