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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2001 8:58 pm
by RepDetect Unit 1051
Hello fellow Blade-Runnians!<BR>I may be reading too much into the best movie of all time but I did study it at school and I have learnt quite alot about the themes and motifs of the film. But then again, thats what this forum is for I guess!<BR><BR>Anyway. There are constant references to eyes in the film. We see a reflection of LA 2019 in a big blue eye at the beginning, Leon tries to kill Deckard by gouging out his eyes, Tyrell is killed by getting his eyes gouged by Roy, Roy says that "...the eyes are the windows to the soul", and so on. <BR><BR>What my question is however, the big blue eye we see at the start of the film, in which we see the cityscape reflection and the large bursts of flame, belongs to someone. What are your thoughts on whose eye it might be? <BR><BR>Im guessing its Rachael's, looking over LA from high up in Tyrell's chamber... but I can't recall whether she has blue eyes or not. Then I thought that it may be Tyrell's, but the lack of glasses doesn't support that theory. And finally, I thought it may have been Holden's, the BR shot and critically injured by Leon in the Tyrell Corp building! <BR><BR>Please reply with your thoughts on who the eye belongs to!<BR><BR><!-- BBCode Start --><IMG SRC="http://www.bladezone.com/contents/film/image-library/Images/0200410_Fiery_Eye.jpg" BORDER="0"><!-- BBCode End --><BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: RepDetect Unit 1051 on 2001-09-05 03:00 ]</font><BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: RepDetect Unit 1051 on 2001-09-05 03:03 ]</font>

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 3:01 am
by 2nd_hand_liver
Personally, I don't think it belongs to anyone in particular, but is simply a metaphor, a device for the whole theme of the story. Eyes, as used in BR carry several messages, among these being the proverbial "windows to the soul". I think that the first eye merelly sets the stage for what is to come, for if you notice, right after the eye shows, we immediately zoom in on Holden and Leon. <BR><BR>Just my .02 cents (.01 cents, adjusted for inflation <IMG SRC="/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif"> )
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 3:32 am
by Deckard BR26354
Personally, I think it's Holden's as he is gazing out of the Tyrell office window over the cityscape while he waits for Leon to turn up...<BR><BR>...can't remember the exact details, but I do recall reading that the eye actually belongs to one of the film crew...<BR><BR>
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 8:49 am
by Nexus6
Dont forget about Chu and Eye World!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 9:42 am
by Tomtrek
Here a quote from the lovely Blade Runner FAQ:<BR><BR>Eye symbolism is rampant:<BR> - The eye in the opening shots<BR> - Replicants' eyes glow<BR> - Tyrell has huge glasses to make his eyes bigger<BR> - glasses like Tyrell's were used in DADoES for fallout protection<BR> - Eyes are used in the VK test<BR> - Chew's Eye World where Chew and Leon both handle the eyes<BR> - "Eyes, eyes... I do only eyes"<BR> - "Chew, if only you could see what I've seen with your eyes!"<BR> - Leon tries to stick his fingers in Deckard's eyes<BR> - The lights behind Pris when she enters Sebastian's apartment<BR> - Batty plays with the glass-encased eyes in Sebastian's apartment<BR> - Batty sticks his thumbs in Tyrell's eyes<BR> - Pris rolls her eyes to show only the whites<BR> - The owl's large eyes are shown frequently<BR> - surrounding the top of the Bradbury building are large, bright blue,<BR> lighted half-orbs, which resemble eyes.<BR> - "I've SEEN things you people wouldn't believe"<BR> - "Not an easy man to SEE, I guess"<BR> - "I wanted to SEE you"<BR> - "He wouldn't SEE me"<BR><BR>Well, thats nice, oh I read somewhere that Ridly Scott said the eye at the begging is Holden's<BR><BR><BR>_________________<BR><!-- BBCode Start --><IMG SRC="http://www.bladezone.com/contents/film/image-library/Thumbs/1604758_Taffey.jpg" BORDER="0"><!-- BBCode End --><BR>"Louie. The man is dry."<BR><BR>If theress a light at the end of the wormhole, its probably a photon torpedo.<BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: tomtrek on 2001-09-05 15:44 ]</font>

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 1:59 pm
by Nexus6
Id like to add a quote, "have you seen this girl?" (taffy lewis)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2001 7:51 pm
by endzem
"Never seen her, buzz off!"<BR><BR>Or in the BR game:<BR>"This ain't no daycare center, McCoy!" (Early Q)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 6:21 pm
by Centauro
Don't you SEE it?<BR><BR>It's the movie, LOOKING AT YOU!!!!<BR><BR>The only one that does it...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2001 9:08 pm
by endzem
Another movie that has a lot of eye symbolism is the 1984 cult film, VIDEODROME.<BR><BR>I've posted a topic about this movie in the General Discussion forum if you care to coment on this irrie film.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 3:23 pm
by Gene Ettix
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 3:25 pm
by Nexus6
Is that movie any good?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 7:45 pm
by endzem
Nexus6, if you like BR, then I think you might like Videodrome. The concept of the movie is very original and off the wall! Like BR, it didn't do to well in the box office, but it does have a small following to this day. Gene and I are talking about it in the General Discussion forum.<BR><BR>"Long live the Flesh!"

PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2001 6:11 am
by Gene Ettix
Gaff's eyes are very interesting,too.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 3:36 pm
by Guest
Video Drome was a radical Sci Fi Movie <IMG SRC="/forum/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif"><BR>I think it was creepy how the Replicant's eyes glow . Like a dogs eyes do when there in the dark and the back of the eye reflicting the light back at you . <IMG SRC="/forum/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> <IMG SRC="/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif"><BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Pris_2 on 2001-09-14 21:37 ]</font><BR><BR><font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Pris_2 on 2001-09-14 21:51 ]</font>

PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 1:04 pm
by Guest
I'm brand new to this chat room thing, so pardon me if I'm redundant.<BR>I'm wondering what you all think about the replicants' glowing eyes?<BR>I look at it as symbolism--the replicants are sort of a reflection of humans. It is as though they reflect everything they see in the human world back at humanity...<BR>This also makes them a little enigmatic. Seems like humans only see what they want to in this movie--arguably in life:)